Hurd uses history to predict China's future
Updated: 2011-07-10 09:30
By Andrew Moody (China Daily)
"China is not a threat because that is not the Chinese way," says Douglas Hurd, former British foreign secretary. [Photo/for China Daily]
The 81-year-old, who was a diplomat in Beijing in the 1950s and is the author of a book on the second Opium War, says the Chinese are more interested in spreading their culture.
"China is not a threat because that is not the Chinese way. They are not involved in conflict in the physical or military sense, but they do believe in Chinese ways and habits spreading outwards and have done so over the years," he says. "They therefore don't need to make colonies or put their flags up everywhere."
Hurd looked in good health sitting in the front room of his relatively modest terraced west London home despite suffering a stroke two years ago. Now a member of the House of Lords, Hurd still maintains an interest in China, regularly attending the China-Britain Business Council annual meeting in London.
Apart from working as a young diplomat there nearly 60 years ago, he accompanied former British Prime Minister Edward "Ted" Heath on his groundbreaking visits to China in the 1970s and Margaret Thatcher on her first visit when she was the leader of the opposition in 1977.
As British foreign secretary, he was also involved in some of the key final discussions with the Chinese leadership before the handover of Hong Kong in 1997. He is one of the few European politicians surviving to have met chairman Mao Zedong.
"I remember two things, neither of which are particularly important. He had liver spots like a lot of old people do, although I don't have much of them myself, and so when you shook hands with him, you were conscious these were the hands of an old man. And, secondly, he spoke Chinese in an extraordinary way. His voice was constantly going up and down. It wasn't off-putting, just slightly strange."
Hurd's latest book, Choose Your Weapons, examines how British foreign secretaries since the 18th century have grappled with politically delicate issues, such as US President Barack Obama's decision to swoop in to Pakistan and kill Osama bin Laden.
"I don't think it would have been right to bring him back for trial in New York. There would have been great publicity and he would have defended himself. I think it was an exceptional case. There was no real doubt about his identity nor his responsibility. I think abnormal people produce abnormal treatment. It shouldn't be the rule though," he says.
Hurd, who retains a calming understated authority, accepts the world is entering a new foreign policy arena. But he doesn't believe the rise of China inevitably means a G2 world in which the United States and China carve up the global interests between themselves.
"I think the world is becoming much more multipolar. There are not just one or two superpowers but a cluster of powers, some stronger, some weaker. They have got to live, accommodate and understand each other, and that has always been very difficult in the past," he says.
He doesn't believe the megaphone diplomacy used by US congressmen last year to browbeat China over the value of the yuan is the right way to deal with the Chinese. "I think they have stopped browbeating because they have (learned) the hard way it isn't very profitable," he says.
Hurd, whose father and grandfather were both members of parliament and now has a son in David Cameron's coalition government, last visited China in 2008.
"I went on an organized tour and I was one of the speakers. I went to Kunming (Yunnan province in Southwest China) and I quite enjoyed that. I was impressed this time in the change of the infrastructure, the roads, the ports, the railway stations, all that kind of thing had been transformed," he says.
It was very different from when Hurd was first in China in the mid-1950s. The United Kingdom, which had economic interests in Hong Kong, was one of the first major countries to recognize the People's Republic of China, in January 1950, but still operated from a legation rather than a full embassy.
"The first sign we had that our status had improved (being accepted as a full diplomatic entity) was that we were asked to the state circus - no explanation, but the invitation came. We made sure we went," he says, laughing.
He spent some of the time in Beijing learning Mandarin and practicing the calligraphy.
"I have lost it now, but I can still speak a bit of it. I remember being slightly discouraged. It was a time when they were constantly simplifying the characters and removing a lot of the strokes. You did your homework one night, and the next day discovered you didn't need to know that anymore," he says.